I forgot to post my lovely Nanners.I love this pattern for it was easy to do. Lot of row repeats but it's nice and tight. Socks I went up higher on the arch also because for me now, I'm starting them all up higher, I like the look. I also like the look of no pattern in the back of the leg.. Depends also on the pattern I suspect, but for these, they came out great. I'm hopping Mary will love to knit also. She saw mine and said she wants t knit now.